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From: lilandbr@scn.org (Leland Bryant Ross)
Subject: Re: Evolution of Esperanto (was: Judging Esperanto)
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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 03:17:19 GMT
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In a previous article, cburd@deletethis.islandnet.com (Chris Burd) says:

>dgary@mindspring.com (D Gary Grady) wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>(Meanwhile, a number of Ido's suffixes were adopted by Esperanto.)
>             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Interesting. Which ones?

My knowledge of Ido is quite skimpy, but it seems to me that -iv- and 
-oz- are of Ido origin, and I would guess -ator- (which doesn't really 
*feel* like a full-fledged suffix to *me*); possibly also -ik-?  None of 
these is universally accepted as a suffix in Esperanto, but obviously 
*some* Esperantists so use them.

>And, while we're on the subject of changes in Eo, is there any sign of the
>ri-ist proposal catching on? That's the proposal for a gender-neutral
>pronoun ri to replace or supplement li (he) and sxi (she) and a masculine
>suffix -icxo to parallel -ino. So instead of patro = father / patrino =
>mother, they'd have patro = parent / patricxo = father / patrino = mother.

I'm a riist-wannabe myself.  I am "in favor of" riismo, and when I 
remember to do so I often write as a riist (though not in contexts where 
I think it might hurt my chances of publication !-) ).  I think riismo is 
both morally and politically preferable to traditional Esperanto's 
pronoun system, but not so much so as to merit martyrdom in its behalf.  
But I have found it's much harder to remember to use "ri" in speech than 
in writing.  I'm working on it, though.

>For what it's worth, I think patricxo is a very fine-sounding word.

Diicxo benu vin, Chris! ;-)
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