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Subject: tropical fish stores
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 90 10:49:22 EST
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From: Rick.Kazman@CAD.CS.CMU.EDU


Harry, 

Your database is pitifully lacking in any information about tropical fish.
I've tried to address the problem.  Here are some replies culled from a
bboard request for info.

So far I've only visited Elmer's, and the Wilkinsburg Aquarium.  Both seemed
to be good stores, but I will have to have more dealings with them to make a
conclusive judgement.  I plan to visit the other stores in the near future.
I'll send you another update if I learn anything interesting.

rick
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 89 15:59:51 EST
From: Mark.Kantrowitz@A.GP.CS.CMU.EDU
To: Rick.Kazman@sei.cmu.edu
Subject: tropical fish

It's been a while, but the best fish are always to be bought by mail.
Most pet stores don't quarantine their fish, with the result that if 
you introduce a new fish to your aquarium (especially catfish), it's
likely that the rest of your fish will die within the week. The 
exception, of course, is when you buy all your fish at the same time
from the same place.

If you want cheap fish, get them from Woolworths.

In case you're ever in Massachusetts, drop by the Boston Pet Supply
in Cambridge. They regularly win awards for their fish. 

The Pet Store in Squirrel Hill isn't very good (half their fish look
dead). I've heard that the Monroeville mall is the place to go, but
haven't visited there yet (not having a car).

--mkant
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1989 21:35-EST 
From: Charles.Krueger@ORCRIST.GANDALF.CS.CMU.EDU
To: Rick.Kazman@sei.cmu.edu
Subject: Re: tropical fish info?

On Route 8 up North there is a place called Sea Horse.  It's probably
the best in the Pgh area.

--Charlie
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To: Rick Kazman <rnk@sei.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: tropical fish 
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 89 22:36:04 EST
From: Mark Kantrowitz <Mark.Kantrowitz@A.GP.CS.CMU.EDU>

Mail order stuffs the fish in a standard bag, but with knockout gas
and extra oxygen, and packs it in styrofoam. It is then shipped
immediately. So long as you acclimate them to your aquarium within
24 hours, the fish will be unharmed. [BTW, this is the way the fish
are shipped to your local pet store. The fish from mail order are
better off since they don't have the trauma of two nettings and
baggings.]

--mkant
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 89 12:22:47 EST
From: Ben Brown <hbb@fas.ri.cmu.edu>
Subject: Tropical fish
To: kazman@sei.cmu.edu

My daughter, who has some tropical fish and has looked around for the 
best place to buy recommends Elmer's. She knows of no other place that 
carries cichlids. She also thinks they are good about replacing fish
that don't survive.

	Good luck, Ben
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To: Kazman@SEI.CMU.EDU
Subject: tropical fish
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 90 13:41:59 EST
From: Edmund.Clarke@G.GP.CS.CMU.EDU

You might try Tropical Paradise (344-6171) on West Liberty.
They have a huge aquarium that is worth seeing anyway.
Where is Elmer's that you mention in your post?
Let me know if you hear of any other good stores?  --Ed
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03-Jan-90 12:40    Gary Bickford@VI RI CMU EDU  re:tropical fish info
Elmer's has something of a reputation for fish that die easily, borne out in
my experience.  There is no cheap place for Cichlids that I have found in
Pittsburgh.  There is a place close to Castriota Dodge (thru the Liberty
tubes, straight about 1 mile, on left) that has some nice ones.  Also, in
Brookline (as above, keep going to light with MacDonald's on right, turn
left at light, up hill to light, straight on Brookline Blvd about 1/2 mile
on left) that usually has a selection of smallish Cichlids for about $6
each.  When I restock my tank, I'll probably go there.  Probably the best
bet for confirmed Cichlid fanatics/aficionados is the big aquarium supply
place somewhere toward Lancaster.  They say in their ad, "Come on down".  I
can't remember their name, but I{ll look around my desk at home.  Finally,
there is the place shown below, not exactly cheap, I've never tried them,
but they had some interesting items on their list.  Minimum order I think is
$50.  Ask for their price list.  It changes monthly, I think.  Ned Bower's
African Cichlids, 36 Emery St., Holbrook     MA  02343.  garyb@vi.ri
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Date: Wed,  3 Jan 90 15:52:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Burner <kb13+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Rick.Kazman@sei.cmu.edu
Subject: Re: tropical fish info?

Rick,

The owner of Wilkinsburg Aquarium is a friend of mine.  He has had cichlid
tanks in the store over the years and knows quite a bit about them.  I've
never kept them myself, but I understand these fish can be a little tricky
(and a LOT aggressive).  If you go back to the store, ask to talk with Joel.
He may have some suggestions for you and I'm sure he'd be happy to talk with
you about your plans for the tank.  Tell him I recommended him to you.  I've
been a satisfied customer at the store for several years, too.  

Good luck with your hobby.  I have a 100 gal setup, but no cichlids.

	-Ken Burner
