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From: Jon.Webb@IUS2.CS.CMU.EDU
To: Derek.Beatty@UNH.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: windshield sealing
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In-Reply-To: Derek.Beatty's bboard message of 21-Apr-86 10:04

I think you have to take out the windshield and replace the rubber
gasket around the edge.  It's a difficult job, requiring great care not
to break the windshield.  Jim Driscoll did this on his car.  I think
you may want to take your car to a commercial place that does this, and
pay them the exorbitant fee they will charge to do this. -- J

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Subject: window leaks...


You can buy silicon gel from a hardware or car parts store.  Spreading this
gel around the seals of your window helps stop rain from coming in.  After
you spread it, it turns into a clear rubber-like material.  Note that some
cars will leak no matter what you do or try; late 60's Camaros is one such
car.  I know, I owned one.

-jim


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From: Bruce.Horn@g.cs.cmu.edu
To: Derek.Beatty@UNH.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: windshield sealing
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In-Reply-To: Derek.Beatty's bboard message of 21-Apr-86 10:00

Use RTV (the silicone sealant).  Putting a bead of the stuff along the
outside edge of the windshield where you think the rain is coming in
should do the trick.  Be sure the area is clean and dry (or as clean
and dry as you can make it).

			Bruce

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From: Frank.Pfenning@CAD.CS.CMU.EDU
To: Derek.Beatty@UNH.CS.CMU.EDU
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In-Reply-To: Derek.Beatty's bboard message of 21-Apr-86 09:59

Get some translucent `putty' as used for the sealing off bathtubs.
It is easy to put on, works quite well, and is hardly noticable.  Make
sure to get the translucent variety, though.

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From: Albert.Johnson@A.SEI.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: windshield sealing
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In-Reply-To: Derek.Beatty@UNH.CS.CMU.EDU's bboard message of 21-Apr-86 10:10    

Depending on the year and model, you may be able to get a dealer to fix
the problem at a small, or no charge.  Phone Ford's area office at
928-2939 (1910 Cochran Road, in the South Hills area of Pittsburgh).

That failing, I suggest that you do the following:

Get the repair manual for your car from Hunt Library or Carnegie
Library of Pittsburgh.  Refer to instructions and/or diagrams for
removing the metal trim, if any, from around the windshield.  This is
pretty easy, but if you're not careful you may scratch or nick the
glass, or damage the clips that secure the trim.

If your windshield is held in with a soft bead of compound, called
'asphalt' or 'beading' by mechanics, you should be able to locate the
leak by inspection once you have removed the metal trim.  I might add
that leaks of this sort usually have external holes some distance from
the place the leak shows internally: a leak on the passenger side may
actually come from the driver's side, and conversely.  This sort of
leak is best repaired with DURO Black Rubber compound, available in
tubes for around $4 from Beacon Auto Parts in Oakland (visible from
Isaly's on the Blvd of the Allies, to the right of Howard Johnson's).

If you have a rubber (neoprene) gasket holding the windshield on, use a
popsicle stick, tongue depressor or other stiff, blunt instrument to
probe the gasket-window and then the car body-window interfaces for
leaks.  When you find the leak you may fill it with bathtub caulk, or
another silicone sealing compound.  Use the stick to hold the problem
area open, run a bead along the leak, then use the stick to force the
caulk into the leak; after the caulk cures, you may trim the excess
away with an x-acto or other suitable razor. Be careful, so that you
don't cut yourself.

In either case, check the car body area for about an inch around the
gasket or asphalt bead to assure yourself that the water is not
actually coming in through a rust hole.  Also check the a-pillars
(frontmost pillars) and vent inlet (the area beneath the little grille
immediately afront of the windshield) for rust, as water can be forced
into those cavities while driving and emerge in the interior looking
for all the world like a windshield leak.

Hope this gets you out of the jam.

Albert

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From: Richard.Cloutier@faraday.ECE.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: windshield sealing
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In-Reply-To: Derek.Beatty@UNH CS CMU EDU's bboard message of 21-Apr-86 10:13    

I had a lot of luck just using clear bathtub caulk.  I just put a
little between the window and the rubber gasket with a toothpick.  I
then put a bead that bridged the edge between the window and gasket, for
a few inches either side of where the leak was.  I used clear but I
suppose you could also use the white stuff.  I think that this stuff
needs to be applied when the temp is above 70F, read the instructions.
rich
