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From: David.Simon@IUS4.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU
To: bovik@CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Bed and Breakfast Query
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I'd like to compile a list of nice bed and breakfast places within a 4 hour
drive of the 'burgh. If you know of a B&B which you are particularly fond of,
please send me a brief description. In particular, I'm looking for places which
have good hiking and road cycling areas nearby.

Also, I believe that there is a guide to B&B places in Western Pennsylvania.
Does anyone know the exact title, and where it may be purchased?

Replies to Bovik...

					 - David


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 10:55:11 EDT
From: Mike Blackwell <mkb@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu>
To: das+@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Re: Bed & Breakfast Query

Hi Dave -

If you're up for a slightly longer trip, I very highly recommend Black
Walnut Point B&B, on Tilghman Island on the Cheapeake. It's about a 6
hour drive from here. It's isolated on the southern tip of the island,
surrounded by a wildlife preserve. There are hundreds of miles of
great cycling roads (flat, well paved, and wide marked shoulders). The
Inn itself is very pleasant, and run by very nice folks.

Closer to home, we really like Cheat River Lodge (near Elkins, WV),
and go there a couple of times a year - hiking in the spring and fall,
xc skiing in the winter. Not really a B&B - it's cabins in the woods
boardering on the Otter Creek wilderness, and all sitting right on the
shore of the Cheat. Full kitchens and everything. They also run a
surprisingly good restaraunt near by. Great mountain biking on the
forest service roads, lots of hiking. About a 3 hour drive.

In Davis, WV is Bright Morning Inn, a little B&B with a great
restaraunt attached. We haven't actually stayed overnight there
(usually stay at the Blackwater Falls lodge or camp), but we make it a
point to stop for dinner when we're passing through...

2 hours north of here is Clarion River Lodge. We spent three days
there just last week. Excellent location on the boarder of Cook Forest
by the river. Canoeing on the river is great for beginners like us.
Road biking along the river is also nice. Unfortunately, it could
stand to be a little more rustic - it's more like a motel in the
woods. But they have good package deals, so it's still a nice close
get away place.

That's all I can think of off hand - we usually camp. I have brochures
for all of these at home, if you want to look at any of them. I'd be
interested in anyplace else you find out about.

		cheers, -m-

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 11:10-EDT
From: David.Kosbie@KOZ.GARNET.CS.CMU.EDU
To: David Simon <das+@cs.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bed & Breakfast Query

The most complete guide I have found is not specific to Western PA, yet
has more entries for this area than the ones that *are* limited to this
domain.  It is:

	Lanier, Pamela, "The Complete Guide to Bed & Breakfasts, Inns &
		Guesthouses in the United States and Canada", 10th
		Anniversary Edition, ISBN 0-89815-530-4.

It costs $16.95, and SqHill Bookstore carries them, and I bet Border's
does, too.

While the book lists many B&B's in Western PA, it only lists the name
and contact info.  Most of the reviews of PA B&B's are in the eastern
part of the state (from Lancaster on east).

Also, I have found that there are many new B&B's not listed in this or
any other book (to my knowledge).  In a recent last-minute attempt to
book a room on a very busy weekend, I started by calling the Apple
Butter Inn, but they were booked, so I asked them for comparable B&B's
that were nearby, and they listed a few.  Each of these were booked, so
I repeated the process.  Soon, I had uncovered perhaps a dozen or more
B&B's that I had not heard of otherwise.

In any event, please post your results -- I'm sure many folks around
here would love to try new and promising B&B's.

Thanks, and good luck!	

--dave


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To: David Simon <das+@cs.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bed & Breakfast Query
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 11:47:32 -0400
From: Wilson_Harvey@MAPS.CS.CMU.EDU


David,  There's an Amish area in Ohio around the town of Berlin (about 3
hours away).  It is a beautiful area, especially in the Fall.  As for
hiking, we found a number of trails.  Though we didn't go biking, we saw a
number of bikers on the back roads.  The entire area may be of interest as
it seems to be replete with B&B's.

About 2 years ago, my wife and I stayed in an inn there that was very nice.
Although not a B&B, you might be interested in checking it out.  It is
called The Inn at Honey Run.  Very nice rooms and good home-cooked food.
Although they seemed to cater to an older clientele, the atmosphere wasn't
stuffy and we were made to feel out of place.  They are a little pricey (in
the $100+/night range), but they have periodic specials where the prices
drop by about 30% or so.  If you're interested, I'm sure I can dig up the
address and telephone number.

I can't help with the name of the B&B guide, but we've gotten several out of
the library that have been helpful.  Again, if you want more details, let me
know.  Have fun!  -Wilson


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 15:26:37 -0400
From: bjz@SEI.CMU.EDU
To: das+@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Re: Bed & Breakfast Query
Cc: 

The River's Edge Bed and Breakfast is in Confluence PA, about
90 minutes drive from Pittsburgh and about 10 miles from the
white water of Ohiopyle.  I've stayed there before and, in
fact, am staying there again this weekend (on honeymoon).

The River's Edge is situated about 10-11 miles from Ohiopyle
and it's very close to the entryway to the flat and pleasant
biking/hiking trail that is part of the Rails to Trails plan.

You can get in to Ohiopyle easily by car, too.  Getting to
Ohiopyle by way of the roads versus the bike trail is doable,
but it means tackling some very challenging hills.  We often
see bikers along the roads, but the hills are fierce in both
directions and I'm uncertain of the number of people who are
actually successful in making the entire trek both ways.

An aside: There's very little to "do" in Confluence if you're
looking for anything other than outdoor activities; there is
no nightlife.  This place is suited for people who enjoy
hiking, rafting, walking, fishing, biking, or just being
outdoors.  You can drive to Fallingwater and, perhaps, get up
to Nemacolin or Seven Springs, where there might be organized
activities and exercise machines, but that's about it.  There
are very few restaurants either, so take that into
consideration when making plans.  There are grocery stores
and a fruit market -- those things usually suffice our needs
quite adequately but your mileage may vary.

Also, you can rent rafts for the less treacherous parts of
the river...if you're not into the white water and its
dangers, there are very tame sections of the river close to
Confluence and you can span the river and the lazy flow
easily in rented rafts.  There are lots of outfitters to help
you out (but make advanced reservations).  The people at the
RIver's Edge can provide pointers...

These same outfitters will rent bikes, but they are situated
in Ohiopyle, I believe.  I don't know if there's a
bike-renting facility in Confluence. There is a store located
next to the River's Edge and they sell a lot of Patagonia
stuff and other equipment that rafting people and kayakers
need -- they might also rent out bikes.  These same people
run a school for teaching people how to canoe, kayak, and
raft.  Those people are quite friendly.

The phone number for River's Edge is (814) 395-5059 and the
owners are quite friendly and accommodating.  I've always
enjoyed their hospitality and willingness to help.

Thanks for compiling this list of B and Bs.

Barbara
-- 
Barbara Zayas, Writer/Editor II
Information Management, Carnegie Mellon University
bjz@sei.cmu.edu


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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 10:39:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard M. Moore" <rm52+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: David.Simon@cs.cmu.edu (David Simon)
Subject: Re: Bed & Breakfast Query
Cc: 

I have been to the Faircroft Bed & Breakfast in Ridgway, PA, twice now.
It has 3 rooms, 1  with a private bath 2 with shared.  The private bath
room  is  about  $45 per night.  It is an old Swedish farm house and
has original antiques (from when it was a dairy & farm).  The breakfast
has been very good both times.

Ridgway is about 2  hours from Pgh and is at the south-east corner of
Allegheny National Forest.  There is hiking, canoeing on the Clarion
(if the water is high enough), cross-country ski trails and also
there is a free-roaming herd of elk within about 20 miles.  They
congregate in the spring and fall to mate.  I haven't seen them,
but I hear they're pretty amazing.  Talk to the owner of Love's Canoe
Rentals -- he is a part-time forest ranger and is full of  information
which he seems glad to share.

Enjoy,

Rich


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 10:26:57 EDT
From: Sanjiv.Singh@H.GP.CS.CMU.EDU
To: das@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: b&bs

Hi Dave,
I have some info I gathered a while ago.  I enclose it below. 
I stayed at a B&B in Mercer about 4 years ago.  It was excellent
if a trifle expensive ($80/night). There is a phone number 
that you can call in Pgh to get B&B info in the area.  You give
them your specs and they send you a list in the mail. I can't
find it at the moment, but I'll look for it.

						-Sanjiv

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29-Mar-89 15:44    Barbara.Grandillo            Cottages and Cabins
From: Barbara.Grandillo@N.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
I've received a few responses to my request for informationn
on cottages and cabins in PA.  Below is a summary - if I receive
any more replys, I will also post them.  

Thanks to all who responded.

Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1989 11:12-EST 
From: Michael.Jones@SPICE.CS.CMU.EDU
To: Barbara.Grandillo@N.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: Cottages or Cabins

I've enjoyed renting the cabins at Racconn Creek state park west of here
almost to the Ohio border.  They provide kitchens, bunks, hiking and nature
trails, and a large lake.

				-- Mike


Date: Wed, 29 Mar 89 11:42:14 EST
From: Dario.Giuse@SPICE.CS.CMU.EDU
To: Barbara.Grandillo@N.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Cottage or cabin

I would suggest the cabins in Hidden Valley.  They are in the Kooser State
Park, right down from the Hidden Valley resort, and can be rented for a
very reasonable amount of money.  Most sleep 4 to 6 people, I believe.  You
should be able to find out more information from the park office (unfortunately,
I do not have any phone numbers).
The setting is very woodsy, with a nice creek that meanders around and then
forms Kooser Lake, a small man-made lake with fishing and swimming (in the
Summer).  You can take great walks, and the place is wonderful for
cross-country skiing (they won't be able to do that, I am afraid...).
At the same time, you can literally walk a couple of miles to the Hidden
Valley resort which has great restaurants, a golf course if you are
interested, tennis, raquetball, indoors swimming, sauna, Jacuzzi, etc.
Also, the town of Somerset is only about 14 miles.  The Barn, at the entrance
of the Hidden Valley resort, has a good restaurant and quaint country shops.
As I am sure you know, Hidden Valley is one hour away from Pittsburgh, at
exit 9 on the PA Turnpile.
  - Dario -


To: Barbara.Grandillo@cs
Subject: Cabins
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 89 12:08:36 EST
From: Paul.Gleichauf@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU

Barbara,
	A very nice, near, and little known, place for cabins
is Lynn Run State Park near Ligonier (east of Pittsburgh). 
There are a few cabins on a reservation only basis in a small
reserve along a stream with trails and a waterfall. I have
not stayed in the cabins, but I do motorcycle up there a couple
of times a year. It is also near Ohiopyle and Fallingwater, so
short sidetrips are possible. There should be a state park
service phone number for Pittsburgh as a next step to see
whether there are any near term vacancies.

				Paul


Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1989 12:41-EST 
From: Marcella.Zaragoza@ISL1.RI.CMU.EDU
To: Barbara.Grandillo@N.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: Cottages or Cabins

Barbara -- Sunday's Pittsburgh Press mentioned that many of the local
state parks, including Moraine and Raccoon, have brand new heated
cabins.  They even had a picture of one of the ones at Moraine, and it
looked pretty nice.  They also listed approximate prices and phone numbers
to call for reservations.  I don't have Sunday's paper anymore, but
maybe you could hunt one up or copy the article from the library's
copy, if they still have it.  It was in the Travel section.  Good luck!

						--Marce




