Return-Path: Received: from CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA by CMU-CS-A.ARPA; 19 Mar 85 10:40:21 EST Date: 19 Mar 1985 10:37-EST From: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA To: Bovik@a Subject: Doctors for heel problem Message-Id: <480094628/agin@CMU-RI-FAS> 13-Mar-85 15:26 Jerry Agin@CMU-RI-FAS Medical advice? I have had a problem for several months with a heel spur, probably as a result of my running activities. The doctors at Penn Group Health Plan have been very little help, so I'd like to find a specialist better prepared to deal with running-type injuries. I know very little about this. What kind of doctor should I be looking for? Is there anybody in particular you'd recommend? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Suggestor Doctor affiliation/specialty Mort Gurtin Stanitsky Marty.Uram Swensen Orthopedic Associates Elaine.Kant Bosta Allegheny Podiatry Associates Lee.Brownston Sports Medicine clinic David.Black podiatrists Mark.Stehlik Janeway orthopedic surgeon Wanda.Keppler Johnstone Randy.Brost Ferguson orthopedic surgeon Mel.Siegel Johnstone M.D., orthopedic Patricia.Cheng Wissinger Oakland Orthopedics Michael.Barton Stanitski Mark.Hirsch Kretz orthotics? John.Pane Nalli Ambridge ---------------------------------------------------------------- p ***** 37 ***** 13 Mar 1985 Marty.Uram@CMU- heel spur Date: 13 Mar 1985 16:34:11-EST From: Marty.Uram@CMU-RI-FAS To: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS Subject: heel spur Dr. Agin: I know of an orthopedic doctor who looked at my knee when I had an infusion in it (i.e., fluid on it) and who is very good. His name is Dr. Swensen, phone number 621-2141. He is with a group of other doctors at Orthopedic Associates?? (I can't remember the exact name right now) in the building on Forbes Ave. which houses the Parkvale S&L, near George Aikens. Don't know if he handles bone spurs, but you might want to check with his office. Two notes though: 1) he is not inexpensive (my one visit totaled $80.00) and it took me a month to set up an appointment. But he did cure my ill. Marty Qualification: By it took me a month to set up an appointment, I mean my appointment was 1 month after I called him. p ***** 38 ***** 13 Mar 85 Elaine.Kant@CMU Re: Medical advice? Received: from CMU-CS-A.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 13 Mar 85 18:02:38 EST Date: 13 Mar 85 1751 EST (Wednesday) From: Elaine.Kant@CMU-CS-A.ARPA To: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA Subject: Re: Medical advice? Message-Id: <13Mar85.175157.EK60@CMU-CS-A.ARPA> Jerry, I had/have a heel spur and ended up seeing someone I was pretty happy with (on the recommendation of a friend who was also a satisfied customer). Since I've been doing little running and physical activity lately due to general laziness I can't claim a perfect recovery, but the pain I had is certainly gone and has stayed gone for the past year or so. I had some shots (which I know you are generally supposed to avoid but was convinced were not the bad kind in this case) and had some orthodics made which I do still wear. I saw a Stanley Bosta of Allegheny Podiatry Associates. They (he and the others in the office) all have taken various special courses etc. in sports medicine and seem to be generally helpful. Good luck. -- Elaine p ***** 39 ***** 13 Mar 85 Lee.Brownston@C Re: Medical advice? Received: from CMU-CS-A.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 13 Mar 85 18:36:58 EST Date: 13 Mar 85 18:23:21 EST From: Lee.Brownston@CMU-CS-A Subject: Re: Medical advice? To: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS I have the same thing you have. I went to the Sports Medicine clinic at St. Margaret's Hospital, in Aspinwall (just across the Highland Park Bridge). They havea team of specialists. First, I was given a series of x-rays which cost about $27. Then I was examined by a physician and a physical therapist. I don't know whether podiatrists were present. I said I thought it was a heel spur, but they said that the x-ray showed no calcification, so they diagnosed it as plantar fascitis, and inflamation of the bundle of ligamants called the plantar fascia as it is inserted into the heel. They gave me a profile of the victims: men over thirty, and older women. They did not recommend a change in shoe, nor venture to discern the cause: it seems that the cause is unclear. I was told to do two variants of the wall pushup as a stretching exercise: one with straightened knee, one with the knee slightly bent (in both cases, one foot at a time). They also told me to do an ice massage for about 15 minutes. They gave me, but did not insist I use, aSpenco arch support. They said the more I run, the longer it will take to heal, but continued use, even racing, will not cause a trauma. They did not want me to mask the pain with aspirin. You may also want to go to a bookstore and browse discreetly in some books on sports injuries. I've had mine since August. Racing inflames it. It doesn't bother me during a run, but the pain increases later. It is worst in the morning, upon getting out of bed. I haven't run for a month, and it is getting better very slowly. I know of no other specialists in athletic injuries of the foot. If I find anything else out, I'll let you know--if I remember. -- Lee p ***** 40 ***** 13 Mar 85 David.Black@CMU Re: Medical advice? Received: from CMU-CS-A.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 13 Mar 85 19:49:12 EST Date: 13 Mar 85 19:47:43 EST From: David.Black@CMU-CS-A Subject: Re: Medical advice? To: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS I don't have any specific doctor to recommend, but podiatrists tend to be good for this sort of thing. They also tend to be better than your average orthopedist. --Dave p ***** 41 ***** 13 Mar 1985 Mark.Stehlik@CM Re: Medical advice? Received: from CMU-CS-G.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 13 Mar 85 20:07:35 EST Date: 13 Mar 1985 19:56-EST From: Mark.Stehlik@CMU-CS-G.ARPA Subject: Re: Medical advice? To: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS Message-Id: <479609805/mjs@CMU-CS-G> In-Reply-To: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS's bboard message of 13-Mar-85 15:29 I have notoriously bad ankles and so have seen a couple of doctors about them. The most helpful was an orthopedic surgeon, Dr. Janeway, whose office is in the Aiken Professional Building (next to Shadyside Hospital). He seems to have a good understanding of sports-related injuries. Another good place that I have found is the Falk Clinic. The problem there is that you never know which doctor you're going to get, but most are young and have an excellent handle on sports-related problems. Good luck, Mark p ***** 43 ***** Thursday, 14 Wanda.Keppler@c heel spur Received: from CMU-CS-GANDALF.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 14 Mar 85 06:35:13 EST Date: Thursday, 14 March 1985 06:31:51 EST From: Wanda.Keppler@cmu-cs-gandalf.arpa To: agin@cmu-ri-fas.arpa Subject: heel spur Message-ID: <1985.3.14.11.29.38.Wanda.Keppler@cmu-cs-gandalf.arpa> Jerry, My husband is the Athletic Trainer here at CMU. He deals regularly with Graham Johnstone whose office is here in Oakland. Dr. Johnstone is very familiar with athletic injuries of all sorts and flavors. Wanda p ***** 44 ***** Thu 14 Mar dzg@CMU-CS-SPIC Running & doctors Received: from CMU-CS-SPICE.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 14 Mar 85 09:07:10 EST Apparently-From: dzg@CMU-CS-SPICE Date: Thu 14 Mar 85 09:03:07-EST From: dzg@CMU-CS-SPICE.ARPA To: agin@cmu-ri-fas Subject: Running & doctors Message-ID: <6591.136986933.dzg> When I had some trouble with a knee a while back, my family doctor told me he could give me the name of a physician who specializes in running-related problems. As it turned out, there was nothing really wrong with my knee, and so I never needed the name. I would be glad to ask my doctor the name of this physician, if you'd like me to. - Dario - p ***** 45 ***** Thursday, 14 Randy.Brost@cmu Heel Spur Date: Thursday, 14 March 1985 09:13:36 EST From: Randy.Brost@cmu-ri-fas.arpa To: Agin@cmu-ri-fas.arpa Subject: Heel Spur Message-ID: <1985.3.14.14.2.25.Randy.Brost@cmu-ri-fas.arpa> Jerry, I think the doctor you need is a good orthopedic surgeon. I'd like to emphasize *good* here. I broke my ankle a few years ago in a sports-related injury, and the first surgeon I saw (at a Kaiser HMO, which is similar to Penn Group if my understanding is correct) was a real bozo who wasn't up-to-date on the latest techniques, and didn't seem to give much thought to the fact that I frequently participate in athletics. It turned out that I got three more opinions, all of which agreed that I needed surgery. I had the operation done by a surgeon who did work for the Denver Broncos football team, and my ankle has since fully recovered. In this sort of situation, second opinions are very helpful. I recently called my doctor in Denver, and he recommended a guy named Ferguson here. There are two orthopedic surgeons named Ferguson in the phone book; I think Albert Ferguson is the one he recommended, but I'm not sure. I believe that the surgeon my doctor recommended does or used to do work for the Steelers. If you like, I can find out for sure which one was recommended, because I have the name on file at home. Good luck! Randy Brost p ***** 46 ***** 14 Mar 1985 Mel.Siegel@CMU- Re: Medical advice? Received: from CMU-RI-SENSOR.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 14 Mar 85 12:46:02 EST Date: 14 Mar 1985 12:43-EDT From: Mel.Siegel@CMU-RI-SENSOR.ARPA Subject: Re: Medical advice? To: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS Message-Id: <479670209/mws@CMU-RI-SENSOR> In-Reply-To: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS's bboard message of 13-Mar-85 15:34 Jerry -- Try Graham Johnstone (M.D., orthopedic) in Oakland. He was recommended by our family physician as the "sports injury (feet)" man to deal with an old ski injury to Jane's ankle, and he seems to have done well by her. -- Mel p ***** 47 ***** 14 Mar 1985 Patricia.Cheng@ heel problem Received: from CMU-RI-ML.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 14 Mar 85 13:30:55 EST Date: 14 Mar 1985 13:26-EST From: Patricia.Cheng@CMU-RI-ML.ARPA Subject: heel problem To: agin@cmu-ri-fas Message-Id: <479672763/pwc@CMU-RI-ML> Try Dr. Wissinger at Oakland Orthopedics. He treated a knee injury I had. I thought he was cautious and competent. --Patricia Cheng p ***** 48 ***** 14 Mar 1985 Michael.Barton@ Re: Medical advice? Received: from CMU-EE-HENRY.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 14 Mar 85 13:46:42 EST Received: by cmu-ee-henry.ARPA (4.12/4.7) id ; Thu, 14 Mar 85 13:36:45 est; Date: 14 Mar 1985 13:30-EST From: Michael.Barton@cmu-ee-henry Subject: Re: Medical advice? To: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS Message-Id: <479673036/mlb@cmu-ee-henry> In-Reply-To: Jerry.Agin@CMU-RI-FAS's bboard message of 14-Mar-85 02:26 Jerry, I also used to suffer through Penn Group's incompetence in the area of sports medicine. I finally got out (Westinghouse offers a choice). My best care of running injuries has come from Dr. Carl Stanitski in Oakland. I haven't been to see him in over a year and heard a rumor that he is spending more of his time (all of it?) on Pediatrics. If this is so and you cannot see him I know several runners at Westinghouse who have had this problem and can probably get other recommendations. Good Luck, Mad Dog p ***** 49 ***** Thursday, 14 Mark.Hirsch@cmu foot doctor Received: from CMU-EE-FARADAY.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 14 Mar 85 14:51:01 EST Received: by cmu-ee-faraday.ARPA (4.12/4.7) id ; Thu, 14 Mar 85 14:43:59 est; Date: Thursday, 14 March 1985 14:43:28 EST Sender: Mark.Hirsch@cmu-ee-faraday From: Mark.Hirsch@cmu-ee-faraday.ARPA To: agin@cmu-ri-fas.ARPA Subject: foot doctor Message-Id: <1985.3.14.19.32.41.Mark.Hirsch@cmu-ee-faraday> I had a similar problem to the one you described on the bboards. Dr. Kretz on Craig street in Oakland prescribed an orthotic insert which fits inside the shoe. He took a mold of my feet and sent it to some company which makes the device. The purpose of the orthotic is to restrict the motion of the foot from pulling the ligament attached to the heel. It has worked very well for the past few years. If you have trouble finding his phone number I will to find it for you. Good luck. mark hirsch np ***** 56 ***** Monday, 18 John.Pane@cmu-c foot doctor Received: from CMU-CS-IUS.ARPA by CMU-RI-FAS.ARPA; 18 Mar 85 12:50:20 EST Date: Monday, 18 March 1985 12:49:03 EST From: John.Pane@cmu-cs-ius.arpa To: agin@cmu-ri-fas.arpa Subject: foot doctor Message-ID: <1985.3.18.17.44.43.John.Pane@cmu-cs-ius.arpa> Jerry, I don't know how far you are willing to travel, but me and my family have had excellent experience with a podiatrist in Ambridge. His name is Dr. Nalli, and he is on 4th Street in Ambridge. I'm sure he is in the phone book. That is about a 30-45 minute drive (non rush-hour) from CMU. He treated me and my two brothers for various problems while running on the high school teams, as well as a number of our friends. If you need better directions, or more detailed information, let me know. John