Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1988 21:43-EDT 
From: J.S.Singh@CIVE.RI.CMU.EDU
To: bovik
Subject: knee surgery

Dear Harry,
This is what I found about knee surgery.  I have an appointment with
Freddie Fu given the number of people who reccommend him.

Jeff
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 88 11:24:19 EDT
From: Mark.Perlin@CAD.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: orthopods

Jeff,

Freddy Foo over at Presby has the best reputation in Pittsburgh.
I.e., 4 out of 5 physicians would go to him.

- Mark (MD)


Subject: Knees
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 88 11:19:13 EDT
From: Daniel Klein - 412/268-7791 <dvk@SEI.CMU.EDU>

Jeff-
	The best guy I know of is Dr. Freddie Fu.  He has an office in the
Falk Clinic, and rebuilt my elbow.  *EXCELLENT* surgeon, comes highly
recommended by the chief of thoracic surgery (my neighbor).  If you go see
him, he will be extremely busy, and will seem not to have paid any attention
to you.  Don't be fooled or put off - he really does know what is going on,
and is very aware.  He's just super-hyper.

					-Dan

P.S.  Good luck with the knee, and don't be put off by the time it takes to
heal.  Joints are always slow, but they *do* get better.


From: Clark.McDonald@CIVE.RI.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: Knee Surgery

FYI Bryon had his knee operated on back while we were still building 
the RWV:  He was out of work for aprox. 2 days, and was back running 
his usual ten miles within two or three weeks!  I suggest that you 
have a chat with him about his doctor and his experience.  

--hope this helps, and hope your knee gets better real soon.

--mack

Date: Fri, 30 Sep 88 12:18:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Finholt <finholt+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Knee Surgery

I had ACL and cartilege surgery done in December, 1986. I received
a first opinion from a doctor in Pittsburgh. He was quite good,
and his diagnosis was exactly right. His name was Charles J. Burke III.
He practices with Graham Johnstone's group at 200 Meyran Avenue in
Oakland.

Since it was close to Christmas, I decided to have the actual surgery
done in Minnesota by another doctor.

Here's what all the surgeons told me. Reconstructive ACL surgery is
really only indicated for people that make a living off of their
legs (e.g., pro athletes, dancers etc.). If the rest of the knee
architecture is OK they simply trim off the ACL stump and one goes
on with one's normal activities (including sports etc.). They fitted
me with a CTi brace for use when the risk of hyperextension is high.
I have found that the rehab was so successful, though, that I really
only wear it under very high stress conditions (e.g., long bike rides,
backpacking, playing tennis, cross-country skiing).

Why didn't they reconstruct the ACL? There is no real blood supply to
the cruciate ligaments. Hence, the odds of successful reconstruction
are restricted. Further, the extensive joint exposure required to
do the reconstruction (even arthroscipically) is not really justified
in terms of superior knee rehab (i.e., the longer the surgery, the more
holes they make, the greater the probability of infection, scarring etc.).
ACL reconstruction was described to me as a mostly experimental operation.
If this is true, it may not be covered under standard insurance policies.

Burke thought most of the other Pittsburgh orthopods were quite good.
However, he specifically recommended against Freddie Fu. In Burke's
opinion, Fu was a hotshot more interested in furthering his own
career than in making his patients healthy (which wasn't to deny
Fu's obvious brilliance as a surgeon). Perhaps this was professional
rivalry, I don't know.

I do know that most of the people I've spoken to about Johnstone's group
have been very pleased.
Unless the knee is particularly "sloppy" I suspect ACL reconstruction is
not worth it.

Hope this helps.

Date: Fri, 30 Sep 88 12:45:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin William Ryan <kr0u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Knee Surgery

   I have not had reconstructive surgery, but:

   In 1983 I went to Dr. Freddie Fu (I kid you not), of Falk Clinic, to see
what could be done with my knee.  He performed an arthroscopy (sp?), basically
checking what the problem was.  The preliminary diagnosis was cartilage damage,
the inspection revealed a strained cruciate ligament.  Since it wasn't torn,
just strained, the prescription was for physical thearapy, which has worked
fairly well.
   Fu is _the_ knee doctor for the U. of Pitt football team - he gets lots of
work.  Seems reasonably competent, though I would recommend a second opinion
if he calls for surgery right off the bat. (A little on the eager side.)
But if surgery is called for, he's good.

                                                    kwr

   "Jest so ya know..."


From: Anthony.Stentz@IUS1.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: Knee Surgery

Jeff,

Would you like to talk to my brother?  His surgeon is in Cincinnati,
but it's only 300 miles away.

						--Tony


From: Jill Murray <jrm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Knee Surgery

Having been the cheerful recepient of 6 knee operations (over the years)
athough none were ligament in nature,  I can highly recommend Peter Cohen,
located on 5th Ave.  He's a cautious surgeon, but will do it when it's
warranted.

I sent a few people to him with different ailments and they were all
well-treated and are healing!

jm


From: Suzanne Liebowitz <lieb@galileo.ece.cmu.edu>
Subject: knee surgery
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 88 13:43:49 EDT

Jeff,

A friend of mine, Sharon Nutter, had very successful orthoscopic (sp?)
surgery on her knee last year. I don't know the name of her doctor, but you
should send her mail d218sn0c@vb and ask her. They cannot read the bboards
from that machine.

Good luck,

Suzanne


From: Suzanne Liebowitz <lieb@galileo.ece.cmu.edu>
Subject: arthro . . .
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 88 15:00:23 EDT

I have just been informed by Webster that I should have said "arthroscopic"
surgery instead of orthoscopic. Anyway, you should contact Sharon anyway if
you still need information about knee surgery.

suzanne


Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1988 15:17-EDT 
From: Vincent.Cate@SAM.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: Knee Surgery

I do NOT recommend Dr. Enke at Steel Valey Othopedic.
He is a good/ok sergeon, but not a nice person.  He does 
not answer questions or tell you what is going on.
After my operation I asked everyone how the operation
went and they all said that the doctor would come by.
It was 2 days later (just before I checked out) before
he came by and told me how it went.  A Dr. Hunt in
California is much better.  Also, Dr. Enke did not
get one of the pieces of my knee back in place and
cut nerves that he did not need to cut.  He made his 
incision vertically instead of horizontally and the
nerves run horizontally across the knee.  The net
result is that the left half of my knee has lost feeling
and it would not have if Dr. Hunt had done it.
I saw Dr. Hunt this summer, while I was in California, and
I will have him operate on my knee over X-mass.


Good luck,

   -- Vince


Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1988 17:58-EDT 
From: Marion.Kee@A.NL.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: Knee Surgery

Disclaimer:  I have never had knee surgery myself.

I have heard from a number of different sources that Dr. Freddy Foo, at
Presby, is one of the best in the business, anywhere.

Whoever needs the surgery (yourself?) has my sympathy!

--Marion

Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1988 08:33-EDT 
From: Jeanne.Bennardo@ISL1.RI.CMU.EDU
Subject: RE: Knee Surgery

Dear Jeff:  

My husband has gone to an excellent orthopedic surgeon for knee surgery who 
	 is also the team doctor for the CMU athletic program.  His name is 
	 Dr. Graham Johnstone and his office is located at 200 Meyran Ave. 
	 right off of Forbes Ave.  His phone number is 621-2141.

-Jeanne Bennardo



