Return-Path: Received: from C.CS.CMU.EDU by A.CS.CMU.EDU; 24 Mar 86 22:28:26 EST Received: ID ; Mon 24 Mar 86 22:26:58-EST Date: Mon 24 Mar 86 22:26:57-EST From: Jeannette.Wing@C.CS.CMU.EDU Subject: chiropractors To: bovik@A.CS.CMU.EDU Message-ID: <12193403690.8.WING@C.CS.CMU.EDU> I'd like recommendations for a good chiropractor, preferably someone experienced with athletes and/or dancers. If you have opinions about chiropractors in general, I'd like to hear them. Thanks, Jeannette Wing 15-Mar-86 07:41:24-EST,1208;000000000001 Received: ID ; Sat 15 Mar 86 07:41:22-EST Date: Sat 15 Mar 86 07:41:22-EST From: Richard.Statman@C.CS.CMU.EDU Subject: chiropractors To: Wing@C.CS.CMU.EDU Message-ID: <12190883178.16.STATMAN@C.CS.CMU.EDU> Contrary to what physicians will tell you, chiropractors can be very helpful (provided that the injury is not disease related). Periodic spinal adjustments can help prevent injury and a good chiropractor can help an injury heal. Anyone who has spent any time in a gym knows this. Lee Steinbach on Shady Ave. comes highly recommended. Some states have laws regarding chiropractic practice. For example, New Jersey forbids a chiropractor from working on extremities (arms and legs) via restrictions on insurance and Blue Cross payments. I don't know about PA, but if you have such an injury you should find out. Some chiropractors who have been specially trained in extremities will work on you anyway and call it a back injury for the sake of the forms. If you regard the injury as serious, you should have an X-ray. In NJ chiropractors are licensed to do this. Again, I don't know about PA. Rick Statman ------- 15-Mar-86 13:55:15-EST,1428;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from H.CS.CMU.EDU by C.CS.CMU.EDU with TCP; Sat 15 Mar 86 13:55:13-EST Date: 15 Mar 1986 13:38:00-EST From: Andi.Swimmer@H.CS.CMU.EDU To: wing@c Subject: chiropractors I had a very good experience with a young, black chiropractor whose office is in East Liberty. His name is Cleveland Brown. I originally went to him because of a "kink" in my back. He X-rayed to make sure I didn't need to be referred to a surgeon, then worked the "kink" out slowly over a period of several weeks. This man is NOT into "snap, crackle and pop". I have a chronic problem with one of my knees, and had seen several orthopedic surgeons. Both said that I'd eventually have to be operated upon. Dr. Brown noticed my knee problem while treating my back. He suggested treating me for it, and did so for about a year. The treatment consisted of having my kneecap pushed into a slightly new position, while I taught myself to walk differently (feet forward instead of splayed -- this took the pressure off the injured part of my knee). No one had ever suggested that I could manage my knee by using it differently, and I consider the treatment 100% successful. I still have cartilage problems and arthritis in that knee, but I only notice it very rarely now. I believe the cost of the first visit was around $60 (including x-ray). Subsequent visits were $15. --andi 15-Mar-86 15:29:09-EST,980;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from CAD.CS.CMU.EDU by C.CS.CMU.EDU with TCP; Sat 15 Mar 86 15:29:04-EST Date: 15 Mar 1986 15:20-EST From: Robert.Frederking@CAD.CS.CMU.EDU To: Jeannette Wing Subject: Re: chiropractors Message-Id: <511302047/ref@CAD.CS.CMU.EDU> In-Reply-To: Jeannette Wing's bboard message of 15-Mar-86 01:11 Specific: We have a chiropractor we like a lot, Alan Berman on Murray Ave. in the Squirrel Hill/Greenfield area. If he doesn't deal with athletes, he could give you a recommendation. You can tell him I sent you, if you like (we have mutual friends, and we're customers of his.) General: Chiropractors are wonderful for spine and joint problems, which regular doctors seem singularly unable to deal with. I don't trust some of their bizarre theories, though. E.g., almost any other physical problem can be traced to a misplaced vertebra. Alan is very low-key about the wierd stuff. Bob 16-Mar-86 19:18:48-EST,429;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from A.SEI.CMU.EDU by C.CS.CMU.EDU with TCP; Sun 16 Mar 86 19:18:48-EST Date: 16 Mar 1986 19:15-EST From: Miles.Barel@A.SEI.CMU.EDU Subject: Re: chiropractors To: Jeannette.Wing. Message-Id: <511402503/mab@A.SEI.CMU.EDU> In-Reply-To: Jeannette.Wing.'s bboard message of 15-Mar-86 01:21 I recommend Allen Berman in Sq. Hill highly. 17-Mar-86 10:28:49-EST,768;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from CAD.CS.CMU.EDU by C.CS.CMU.EDU with TCP; Mon 17 Mar 86 10:28:46-EST Date: 17 Mar 1986 10:10-EST From: David.Lampenfield@CAD.CS.CMU.EDU To: Jeannette Wing Subject: Re: chiropractors Message-Id: <511456250/dcl@CAD.CS.CMU.EDU> Try Jeff Cohen in the University Square Apartments, Fifth at Neville, 681-4747. He has for years had some of the Steelers as clients. His methods are not the traditional "crack your back" type, but rather to find the source of tension , relieve it and realign the body. There's a name for this school of chiropracty, but it eludes me at this time. I've been a client for years and have been quite pleased with the those treatments i've recieved. 17-Mar-86 16:42:47-EST,1467;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from G.CS.CMU.EDU by C.CS.CMU.EDU with TCP; Mon 17 Mar 86 16:42:43-EST Date: 17 Mar 1986 14:20:49-EST From: Dirk.Kalp@G.CS.CMU.EDU To: wing@c Subject: Chiropractors I have lots of reservations about chiropractors in general and in particular for athletes, dancers, etc. based on my own observations and experiences as well as those of friends. I think that it's, at best, difficult to find a chiropractor who's good as well as experienced with athletes. The same is true for podiatrists. I would start with someone in sports medicine. You might try an athletic trainer here at CMU first to get help or referrals to other professionals. I would advise against letting anyone 'adjust your spine' or prescribe orthotics until you've atempted to solve your problem with less radical alternatives. For runners, for example, many problems have simple solutions like stretching exercises, strengthening and balancing programs, changing shoes, training methods, etc. The techniques and tools of chiropractors and podiatrists can be just as invasive as those of surgeons even though no cutting is involved. So here too I think it is wise to try the alternate solutions first. If you want to discuss any of this further, just let me know (WeH 3220, x3648). I think it's pretty important, especially when the sport or activity you're involved in is important to you to keep yourself healthy and happy. Dirk --------------------And finally,------------- I got another recommendation for Jeffrey Cohen, at 4627 Fifth (University Square Apts.), 681-4747. Maria Teresa del Real and Pablo Savoye of the Pittsburgh Ballet Theater go to him as do many other dancers. Apparently he treats football players and other athletes too. Jeannette Wing -------