Return-Path: Received: from GS135.SP.CS.CMU.EDU by K.GP.CS.CMU.EDU id aa00512; 15 Apr 93 17:46:55 EDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 17:45:54 EDT From: Anwar.Mohammed@GS135.SP.CS.CMU.EDU To: bovik@cs.cmu.edu Subject: More on Gas Lines (Message inbox:2) Return-Path: <@GS135.SP.CS.CMU.EDU:Roy.Taylor@H.GP.CS.CMU.EDU> Received: from GS135.SP.CS.CMU.EDU by F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU id aa05265; 15 Apr 93 11:29:14 EDT Received: from H.GP.CS.CMU.EDU by GS135.SP.CS.CMU.EDU id aa15256; 15 Apr 93 11:28:46 EDT Date: Thursday, 15 April 1993 10:28:07 EST From: Roy.Taylor@H.GP.CS.CMU.EDU To: Anwar_Mohammed@GS135.SP.CS.CMU.EDU Subject: Plumber disrecommendation (details) Message-ID: <1993.4.15.15.26.18.Roy.Taylor@H.GP.CS.CMU.EDU> In-Reply-To: <15138.734886557@GS135.SP.CS.CMU.EDU> Anwar -- GA Dice did two jobs for me in fall 89. I feel these guys didn't serve me well and, in fact, significantly overcharged me. Beware their quotes. They use "worst case" and don't adjust if the job proceeds with no hitches. Their quoted $1500 turned out about $500 over a reasonable charge for the 20 man-hours, plus parts & equipment, actually expended. Also be prepared to wait for weeks with no communication from them, even if they say work can begin next week. The office is run by an Armand Ignelzi, who's about to retire and apparently doesn't give a damn about serving the customer. The younger fellow who actually did our work, Geiselhart, talks a lot. While he's very impressed with himself, his work seems no more than average. The main thing they did was install a new water line, and for that they have a clever method to avoid digging up your front yard. The trick is to bore a hole from basement to street main inlet box. So feasibility depends on geometry. Expect a muddy basement if you follow this route. In addition, they charged $100 to reseat my toilet, simply because I had requested a quote. Originally, they told me the job would take about half an hour. Geiselhart did it in 20 minutes. At $34/hr, plus parts, that's a neat 400% above their normal profit. If you locate a competent plumber who shows integrity, please let me know. I've recently seen ads claiming RotoRooter is now in the plumbing business. That might be worth checking out. -- Roy (Message inbox:3) Return-Path: Received: from CARY.ADM.CS.CMU.EDU by F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU id aa05339; 15 Apr 93 11:34:28 EDT Received: from CARY.ADM.CS.CMU.EDU by CARY.ADM.CS.CMU.EDU id aa02910; 15 Apr 93 11:33:42 EDT To: anwar@F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU Subject: Plumber Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 11:33:38 -0400 Message-ID: <2908.734888018@CARY.ADM.CS.CMU.EDU> From: Cary_Lund@CARY.ADM.CS.CMU.EDU Anwar, Try Joe Corriols - 371-6396. Reasonably priced, decent guy. Has done quite a bit of work for us; if it doesn't work he comes and fixes it til it does. Lives at home, has a mom who answers the phone. Use the words "emergency" and if/when you connect you can tell him Cary Lund and Pat Morgan recommended him. Cary (Message inbox:5) Return-Path: <@edrc.cmu.edu,@hc.sei.cmu.edu:cb@SEI.CMU.EDU> Received: from EDRC.CMU.EDU by F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU id aa07430; 15 Apr 93 15:01:51 EDT Received: from hc.sei.cmu.edu by EDRC.CMU.EDU id aa13997; 15 Apr 93 15:00:57 EDT Received: by hc.sei.cmu.edu (5.65/2.5) id AA16911; Thu, 15 Apr 93 15:00:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 15:00:45 -0400 From: cb@SEI.CMU.EDU Message-Id: <9304151900.AA16911@hc.sei.cmu.edu> To: anwar+@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Gas Line Work -- Emergency Newsgroups: cmu.cs.general In-Reply-To: Organization: Software Engineering Institute Cc: Gas lines: Neil Hamovitz Plumbing 146 Hazelwood Ave. 421-0129 Bad guys: Dice and Comer. Steer clear of them.