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Subject: car insurance
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From: Paul.Allen@IUS4.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU


Here is a query and the replies I got about car insurance.

Query:

08-May-91 12:44    Paul.Allen                   car insurance
From: Paul.Allen@IUS4.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU

I have a car insurance question:

I've just recently gotten rid of my car and don't plan on getting another one
for at least a year or two. Should I keep some sort of minimal liability
insurance or should I completely cancel it? The problem is that if I cancel it,
the chances are that the rates will really be high when I start back up. (Don't
ask why -- as we all know, the insurance companies are evil.) 

I know I can do a mathematical analysis based on the premiums I expect to pay
and the length of time I plan on being without a car, but I am really looking
for anyone with similar experiences that possibly has figured out how to
convince the insurance companies that you're not a cretin for not keeping
insurance when you don't have a car.

Any advice would be appreciated.

	Paul

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To: Paul.Allen@IUS4.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: car insurance
Date: Wed, 8 May 91 19:11:02 EDT
From: rwh@GOTTLOB.TIP.CS.CMU.EDU
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The thing to watch out for is that fact that insurance companies are currently
spiting Pennsylvania drivers because of the enforced rate rollback: most are not
writing *any* new policies, and mine is eliminating the budget payment program
(the whole thing is now due all at once).  So it may make sense to keep a policy
for fear of not being able to get one at all.

Bob
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To: paul.allen@CS.CMU.EDU
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From: Colleen Everett <Colleen.A.Everett@H.GP.CS.CMU.EDU>


A few years back I had sold my car and didn't have one for about a year.
The problem is when you start your insurance up again they put you on high
risk regardless of your past record because you don't currently carry
insurance.  I argued this point til I was blue in the face with just about
every insurance company in the city and they said the same thing.  I still
don't understand the logic behind it.  Ridiculous because I had had
insurance for 5 years straight prior to selling my car and never had a mark
on my driving record.  I thought I would try to beat them at their own game.
When I called for insurance and they asked me for my current insurance
policy I gave them my old policy number.  I figured the worst that could
happen is they would deny me coverage.  I'm not sure how much they really
check it out, but it worked.   I got insurance at a reasonable rate with the
first company I called.  While it is not a very ethical solution, I would
have been fair with them if they had been fair and reasonable with me.  I have
a bad attitude about insurance companies...no wonder.

colleen


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From: David.Steere@cs.cmu.edu
To: Paul.Allen@IUS4.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Re: car insurance
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I'd be interested in knowing that too. Also, what happens to your
license if you don't own a car... Do you need insurance as a non-driver
or something?

david.
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To: Paul.Allen@IUS4.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Auto insurance
Date: Thu, 09 May 91 13:38:01 EDT
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From: Paul.Gleichauf@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU

Paul,
	I have done as you proposed, selling a car but leaving the
insurance intact for over a year.  My insurance agent was aware of
the situation, lowered the policy limits to the minimum, and let the
policy run.  The insurance company was not made aware that we were
doing this, and might have felt legally obligated to cancel the
policy.  Yet as long as they do not know it is the ideal kind of
policy to underwrite, no risk, no chance of a claim, and continuing
premiums.  This is also why the agent was so cooperative. 
Eventually I did get another car, and there were no problems.

					another
						Paul

