Return-Path: Received: from DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU by K.GP.CS.CMU.EDU id aa03323; 29 Dec 94 16:55:34 EST Received: from DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU by DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU id aa02171; 29 Dec 94 16:54:48 EST To: bovik@K.GP.CS.CMU.EDU Reply-to: ref@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Camping in the Carribean Date: Thu, 29 Dec 94 16:54:45 EST Message-ID: <2168.788738085@DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU> From: Robert_Frederking@DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU Here is a post I made, and the answers I received. The clear winners were St. John in the US Virgin Islands and the Florida Keys; the phone numbers are at the end of this. The Everglades, the Mexican/Central American coast, and Puerto Rico are also possibilities. Newsgroups: cmu.cs.general From: ref@CS.CMU.EDU (Robert Frederking) Subject: Camping in the Carribean? Originator: ref@DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU Nntp-Posting-Host: dhaka.mt.cs.cmu.edu Reply-To: ref@cs.cmu.edu (Robert Frederking) Organization: Center for Machine Translation, Carnegie Mellon University Distribution: cmu Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 16:00:35 -0500 I'd like to find out whether it's possible to camp somewhere in the Caribbean or Bahamas, or make some other fairly cheap living accomodations; I've got a frequent flyer coupon to use, so getting there will be cheap, and it would be a shame to spend megabucks on a hotel. Any clues about even how to find out? The travel agent sounded like she thought I was a space alien for even considering such a thing, and thought it "probably isn't possible". Places with good snorkelling would be preferred. Thanks. Replied: Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:16:58 EST Replied: "Julio Ken Rosenblatt +inbox" Return-Path: Received: from IUS5.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa13802; 15 Dec 94 16:55:01 EST From: Julio Ken Rosenblatt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 16:54:48 EST To: Robert Frederking In-reply-to: ref@CS.CMU.EDU's message of Thu, 15 Dec 1994 16:00:35 -0500 Subject: Camping in the Carribean? Bob, I tried to find out exactly the same thing, also to no avail. But I did camp in Bahia Honda State Park in the Florida Keys. It's not the Bahamas, but it was nice and there is some good snorkeling around, and Key West is fun. Good luck. Julio To: Julio Ken Rosenblatt Reply-to: ref@CS.CMU.EDU Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 15 Dec 94 16:54:48 -0500. Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:16:57 EST Message-ID: <14924.787529817@DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU> From: Robert_Frederking@DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU That sounds pretty intriguing, actually. The Keys count as the Caribbean, I think. Did you need to get permits/reservations in advance? Any other important details? Thanks. Bob Replied: Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:37:32 EST Replied: "Mike Blackwell " Return-Path: Received: from CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa14155; 15 Dec 94 17:13:50 EST Received: from FRC2.FRC.RI.CMU.EDU by CS.CMU.EDU id aa06538; 15 Dec 94 17:13:17 EST Received: from llama.rec.ri.cmu.edu by FRC2.FRC.RI.CMU.EDU (4.1/5.17) id AA04130; Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:11:23 EST Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:11:23 EST From: Mike Blackwell Message-Id: <9412152211.AA04130@FRC2.FRC.RI.CMU.EDU> Received: by llama.rec.ri.cmu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA02590; Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:13:12 EST To: ref@CS.CMU.EDU Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? Cc: St. Johns (USVI) is mostly national park, with some campgrounds, plus a place where you can stay on platform tents with communal showers. I haven't been there myself, but people I've talked to thought it was fabulous, and it's on my list... Certainly great snorkelling. Get one of the Fodors/Frommers type guide books, Borders has a good selection. There are definitely places to camp in the Bahamas / Caribbean, but it might not be as cheap to get there as you think - your frequent flyer ticket will get you to one of the major resort islands, and you'll still need to boat or fly to where you really want to go. Also, food is very expensive on all but the biggest islands. A post to rec.backcountry should get you some info. If you're ticket is good in the other direction, Hawaii has tons of great hiking and camping. Round trip from SF or LA isn't that expensive (well, maybe this time of the year it is). Florida Keys or Everglades are a good alternative in my book. Return-Path: Received: from IUS5.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa14562; 15 Dec 94 17:38:07 EST From: Julio Ken Rosenblatt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:38:02 EST To: ref@cs.cmu.edu In-reply-to: Robert_Frederking@DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU's message of Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:16:57 EST <14924.787529817@DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU> Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? We didn't know about the place in advance, so we had to put ourselves on a waiting list for a couple of days, but you definitely can and should make reservations if you go. I'll try to dig up the number at home. Julio Return-Path: Received: from KEYSTONE.ARCH.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa15218; 15 Dec 94 19:24:59 EST To: Robert Frederking Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 19:24:35 EST From: shaw@KEYSTONE.ARCH.CS.CMU.EDU Sender: shaw@KEYSTONE.ARCH.CS.CMU.EDU There's a place with camping and snorkling on St John (one of the US Virgin Islands). I've never been there, but I have friends who used to go back regularly. I'd suggest calling a dive shop (check in the Yellow Pages) and asking for the name of a travel agent who arranges dive vacations. They may think you're a wimp for wanting to snorkel instead of dive, but they won't think you're a space alien. You might have to fly to Charlotte Amalie (St Thomas) and take a boat over, or there might be a flight directly to St John. Mary Return-Path: Received: from RI.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa16142; 15 Dec 94 22:32:46 EST Received: from AMC.ECE.CMU.EDU by RI.CMU.EDU id aa19344; 15 Dec 94 22:32:26 EST Received: (herman@localhost) by amc.ece.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) id WAA00322; Thu, 15 Dec 1994 22:32:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 22:32:23 -0500 From: Herman Schmit Message-Id: <199412160332.WAA00322@amc.ece.cmu.edu> To: ref@cs.cmu.edu (Robert Frederking) In-reply-to: ref@CS.CMU.EDU's message of Thu, 15 Dec 1994 16:00:35 -0500 Subject: Camping in the Carribean? My sister spent a couple weeks camping on the beach and snorkelling in Belize. She said it was great. No tourists, good camping, great snorkelling. I want to go. Another cheapish place is the Bay Islands of Honduras. I think one of them is called Ratan. English is spoken in both Belize and the Bay Islands. Of course it may not be easy to redeem a FF coupon for Belize. Good luck, and have a great time. Herman Return-Path: Received: from SMAK.BOLTZ.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa16359; 15 Dec 94 23:17:20 EST Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 23:14:37 EST From: Theona.Stefanis@SMAK.BOLTZ.CS.CMU.EDU To: ref@nl.cs.cmu.edu Subject: caribbean . . Hi Bob, My German friend, Ulrike Habel, who was here at CMU doing a post-doc in Mechanical Engineering until about two months ago, took a trip to St. Thomas last year with some friends and they camped the whole time. She is now at the University of Michigan doing a post-doc, but I send her e-mail at her old CMU account 'uh22@andrew.cmu.edu' and she logs into it almost every day. If you tell her you're a friend of mine and are wondering about what camping is like in the Caribbean, I'm sure she'll answer you. She's very nice. But she is leaving next week for Germany for the holiday, so I'd contact her right now if you want to reach her and get a response before she leaves. Hope all is well . . Theona Return-Path: Received: from F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa17342; 16 Dec 94 2:15:47 EST Received: from ANWAR-HOME.PC.CS.CMU.EDU by F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU id aa18360; 16 Dec 94 2:14:59 EST Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 02:15:22 -0500 From: Anwar Mohammed To: Robert Frederking Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? References: Organization: School of Computer Science In article , ref@cs.cmu.edu (Robert Frederking) wrote: > I'd like to find out whether it's possible to camp somewhere in the > Caribbean or Bahamas, or make some other fairly cheap living > accomodations; I've got a frequent flyer coupon to use, so getting > there will be cheap, and it would be a shame to spend megabucks on a > hotel. Any clues about even how to find out? The travel agent > sounded like she thought I was a space alien for even considering such > a thing, and thought it "probably isn't possible". Places with good > snorkelling would be preferred. Thanks. There are many good reasons to consider the carribbean coast of mexico. Some major cities include Cancun, Cozumel, Isla Mujeres, and Playa Del Carmen (all in the state of Quintana Roo.) One of my best vacations ever. The reasons: -- Some of the best diving and snorkeling in the world. The cave of the sleeping sharks and palancar reef among many other sites. -- All the white sand/blue clear waters and coconut trees you want in a Carribbean destination. -- Great and somewhat unique yucatecan cuisine. (Good habaneros, too) -- Mayan ruins, many, besides the major ones, fun to explore. -- Trips down to Belize for virtually nothing on a bus. I met a guy that would take us down a river on his boat to go see untouched mayan ruins, complete with monkeys, toucans and other exotic creatures you might not otherwise get to see, for about $75 for the whole group. -- Lot's of other backpackers to hang around with. -- Great weather for the next four-five months. -- Older, colonial-influenced cities like Merida and Campeche are very accessible. You'll find elements of Madrid in both, and a lot of Mexican post-columbian cultural history. -- Wildlife preserves (Sian Ka'an in Quintana Roo) -- Good bus availability to all these sites. There are so many good reasons. Tulum and Playa del Carmen are two particularly popular destinations for backpackers. A lot of Europeans seem to favor Playa (it's a launching point for Cozumel island). But there are a many other sites, I'm sure. Cancun is pretty plastic, but it's a good launching point for a Yucatan experience. I have a Fodor's guide if you'd like to borrow it. They have campsite listings, but there might be a better guide available. I don't know if there is a travel guide in bovik, but you should summarize and forward responses there. I'd like to hear about other carribean camping possibilities. Good Luck! -anwar -- http://parsys.cs.cmu.edu/anwar/anwar-home.html http://www.cs.cmu.edu:8001/Web/People/anwar/kuwait.html "On 23 October 1994, the regime put to death doctors, among them the Director of a Basra hospital, who refused to cut off the ears of deserters. Many other doctors and officials in Baghdad, Basra and Kirkuk who did not implement these orders were arrested." Return-Path: Received: from F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa17351; 16 Dec 94 2:17:19 EST Received: from ANWAR-HOME.PC.CS.CMU.EDU by F.GP.CS.CMU.EDU id aa18369; 16 Dec 94 2:17:12 EST Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 02:17:39 -0500 From: Anwar Mohammed To: Robert Frederking Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? References: Organization: School of Computer Science I forgot the following, which you seemed interested in: If you want to do the hotel thing, you can get away with around $30-35 a night. The key is to arrive early in the day to get a room...they tend to fill up. -- http://parsys.cs.cmu.edu/anwar/anwar-home.html http://www.cs.cmu.edu:8001/Web/People/anwar/kuwait.html "On 23 October 1994, the regime put to death doctors, among them the Director of a Basra hospital, who refused to cut off the ears of deserters. Many other doctors and officials in Baghdad, Basra and Kirkuk who did not implement these orders were arrested." Return-Path: Received: from PROVENCE.SP.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa18837; 16 Dec 94 8:07:13 EST To: Robert Frederking Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 8:06:32 EST From: pattyh@PROVENCE.SP.CS.CMU.EDU Sender: pattyh@PROVENCE.SP.CS.CMU.EDU A possibility: Call the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh (622-3114) or a large book store (like Borders or Barnes & Noble) and ask if they have any travel guides that would give this kind of information. Patty Horne Computer Science Librarian Return-Path: Message-ID: <8iwOEkq00WB80LW2Re@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 09:29:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Marcie A. Wallace" To: Robert Frederking Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? Cc: In-Reply-To: Distribution: cmu Maho Bay and Cinnamon Bay on St. John in the US Virgin Islands. Talk to Shirley at Alpern Travel in Shadyside. 5541 Walnut St. 681-2900. Tell her Marcie and Steve sent you. --Marcie Wallace Ritter Return-Path: Received: from ARES.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa21925; 16 Dec 94 14:18:46 EST To: Robert Frederking Cc: bovik@cs.cmu.edu In-reply-to: ref@CS.CMU.EDU's message of Thu, 15 Dec 1994 16:00:35 -0500 Subject: Camping in the Carribean? Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 14:17:52 EST From: tomstr@ARES.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU Sender: tomstr@ARES.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU Robert Frederking writes: >I'd like to find out whether it's possible to camp somewhere in the >Caribbean or Bahamas, or make some other fairly cheap living >accomodations; Last fall (November 93) we got an extermely pleasant experience camping on go old Uncle Sams own land in the Caribean US National Park, San John, USVI (fly into Charlotte Amalie on St. Thomas, take bus, ferry, taxi shuttles to St.John). The island is only partially developed so expect much nature, hiking and snorkely but little to no nightlive. There are two possibilities: a) US Park Service Campground at Coral Bay. They got camp sites for around $12-$14 a day and cottages for $40. As far as I remember there were showers, a store and a restaurant. This is 3 miles outside Cruz Bay. The area is flat near Coral Bay. b) Maho Bay, Cottages and Villas, a private camp-ground operated by "enviro-green" inpired Manhattan developer. Maho Bay is 5 miles outside Cruz Bay. They have around 100 canavas cottages (sleep 4, rent for $55-70/night depending on season) and 10-12 luxury villas built alledgedly 100% from recycled materials (they rent for too much, price was not set but expected to be at $180/night). For the tents there is supposed to be a student-construction program where you can trade a half day woodworking and remodeling against free accomodation in low season (Aug-Oct). The older tent village is clean and elevated on wooden platforms and wooden walkways. There are bathhouses with clean but cold showers (Caribeen cold = much warmer than Rocky Mountain cold). Long warm shower with a lot of soap/shampoo would endager the coral reef downhill because water/sewer could not be dealt with. The new villas are wonderfully overlooking the bay. They did them with all luxury you could imagine and - grrrr - they have electricity, dishwasher, cold and hot water (I had my reservations against that project... but they are extremely proud of it! I remains seen is whether that is still sustainable development in a National Park?). Maho has a store and a wondeful patio restaurant overlooking Maho Bay and with a view towards the British Virgin Islands. Happy hour with $1 drafts and bread baked in a solar oven are like in paradise and the daily menu are a good value for $10-$12. The place is kind of self service, bus your own tables, but no paper plates or cups - of course! In the evening they got a park ranger having a nature talk or similar events. The tents have a deck, two beds, a couch, gas range, pots an pans, electricity and table to sit and eat (all inside the nets against sand-flies and mosquitos), each tent comes with one or two resident small iguanas to round up bread crums and insects. Both campgrounds have direct walking access to a beach with a coral reef and a walk to seveal interesting cays (little island surrounded by corals). The park service campground is not too far from Trunk Bay where we found the only National Park Service underwater nature trail. You can walk it but have to swim it. I will send in the phone numbers of Maho and National Park Headquarters as soon as I find them. Thomas M. Stricker Return-Path: Received: from MASS.SENSOR.RI.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa23086; 16 Dec 94 16:27:47 EST To: ref@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? Newsgroups: cmu.cs.general In-Reply-To: Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Cc: mws+@cmu.edu Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 16:26:55 EST From: mws@MASS.SENSOR.RI.CMU.EDU Sender: mws@MASS.SENSOR.RI.CMU.EDU Bob -- Your travel agent is probably right about the coconut republics that live on tourism and treat a hotel reservation like a visa. But there are some places in the Caribean that are part of the USA, have National Parks, etc, and I would suppose you can do as you please there, modulo maybe needing reservations for the campsites. -- Mel Return-Path: Received: from COCORICO.SPEECH.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa23468; 16 Dec 94 17:14:55 EST From: Dean Benjamin Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 17:14:22 EST To: Robert Frederking In-reply-to: ref@CS.CMU.EDU's message of Thu, 15 Dec 1994 16:00:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? Reply-to: drb@cs.cmu.edu My brother has lived in Puerto Rico for several years. He and his wife, avid camper both, have camped the Caribbean some; I'll ask them for recommendations on our next phoning. How soon do you need to know? Also, a year ago I found some good guides at the Carnegie, when I was reading up on the area prior to my first trip down there. I think the best was by the Sierra Club -- campground reviews, organized by island. I'll bring this up with Barb at tomorrow's Clogger gig. -- Dean Return-Path: Received: from CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa04971; 19 Dec 94 8:41:55 EST Received: from as0a.sei.cmu.edu by CS.CMU.EDU id aa10360; 19 Dec 94 8:41:17 EST Received: from ir.sei.cmu.edu by as0a.sei.cmu.edu (8.6.9/3.00) id IAA02343; Mon, 19 Dec 1994 08:38:35 -0500 Received: from localhost.sei.cmu.edu by ir.sei.cmu.edu (8.6.9/3.00) id IAA01738; Mon, 19 Dec 1994 08:38:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199412191338.IAA01738@ir.sei.cmu.edu> To: Robert Frederking Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? Date: Mon, 19 Dec 94 08:38:26 EST From: Len Bass My family and I spent a delightful week on the island of Culebra (part of Puerto Rico). Its population is around 1000 and so its mostly you and the goats. The place we stayed (Tamarind Estates) is right on the beach with delightful snorkling. They advertise in the back of the travel section of the Sunday NY Times. My recollection is that it cost us $1100 for a villa for four for a week (shoulder season). You fly to San Juan with ff coupon (as we did) and then get on a puddle jumper (another $50/person) to go to Culebra. There were also rooms for rent in town which presumably would be cheaper but you pretty much had to be there to find the room. For more general looking there is a book called "Undiscovered Islands of the Caribbean" that you can get at Barnes and Noble. The other option is to figure out which island you want to go to and call their travel office in the US. They will sometimes tell you about cheaper accomodations than the fancy hotels. Travel agents are pretty much worthless for this type of travel. Len In article , you write: |> I'd like to find out whether it's possible to camp somewhere in the |> Caribbean or Bahamas, or make some other fairly cheap living |> accomodations; I've got a frequent flyer coupon to use, so getting |> there will be cheap, and it would be a shame to spend megabucks on a |> hotel. Any clues about even how to find out? The travel agent |> sounded like she thought I was a space alien for even considering such |> a thing, and thought it "probably isn't possible". Places with good |> snorkelling would be preferred. Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Len Bass, Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, Pa 15213 Office: (412) 268-6763 , Fax: (412) 268-3399, internet: ljb@sei.cmu.edu Return-Path: Received: from RUN.SP.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa05041; 19 Dec 94 8:47:55 EST To: ref@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? Newsgroups: cmu.cs.general In-Reply-To: Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Cc: Bcc: pane+pop@RUN.SP.CS.CMU.EDU Date: Mon, 19 Dec 94 8:47:06 EST From: pane@RUN.SP.CS.CMU.EDU Sender: pane@RUN.SP.CS.CMU.EDU In article you write: >I'd like to find out whether it's possible to camp somewhere in the >Caribbean or Bahamas, or make some other fairly cheap living >accomodations; I've got a frequent flyer coupon to use, so getting >there will be cheap, and it would be a shame to spend megabucks on a >hotel. Any clues about even how to find out? The travel agent >sounded like she thought I was a space alien for even considering such >a thing, and thought it "probably isn't possible". Places with good >snorkelling would be preferred. Thanks. There was a writeup in the Sunday paper this past summer about Maho Bay, St. John, US British Virgin islands. I don't remember the details, but it sounded like you could make an inexpensive vacation of it. Here is what I wrote down: Cabins are $60/night offseason; $90 Dec 15 - May 1 800-392-9004 (no credit cards) They might have campsites too. I also jotted down some essentials about some organized trips that offer hiking, mtn biking, snorkeling, scuba diving, sea kayaking; probably with meals included. These range from $750-$2000 per person per week. I can forward them if you're interested. Camping is definitely an option in the Caribbean, but you may have to forget about using travel agents to help you figure things out. John -- John Pane Computer Science Department pane+@cmu.edu Carnegie Mellon University 412/268-6774 http://www.cs.cmu.edu:8001/Web/People/pane/ Return-Path: Received: from CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa05248; 19 Dec 94 9:20:08 EST Received: from FRC2.FRC.RI.CMU.EDU by CS.CMU.EDU id aa10612; 19 Dec 94 9:19:53 EST Received: from monarch.frc.ri.cmu.edu by FRC2.FRC.RI.CMU.EDU (4.1/5.17) id AA11166; Mon, 19 Dec 94 09:17:58 EST Date: Mon, 19 Dec 94 09:17:58 EST From: Regis Hoffman Message-Id: <9412191417.AA11166@FRC2.FRC.RI.CMU.EDU> Received: by monarch.frc.ri.cmu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA02765; Mon, 19 Dec 94 09:19:50 EST To: ref@CS.CMU.EDU Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? Cc: In case you haven't gotten a response, St. John's in the US Virgin Islands is about 1/3 US National Park and has campsites. Regis Hoffman (412) 268-6987 Field Robotics Center Internet: rmh@cmu.edu Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA. 15213 Replied: Tue, 20 Dec 94 14:46:56 EST Replied: ""Thomas M. Stricker" " Return-Path: Received: from ARES.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa16583; 20 Dec 94 13:58:20 EST Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 13:43-EST From: Thomas.Stricker@ARES.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU Reply-To: "Thomas M. Stricker" To: bovik@cs.cmu.edu Cc: ref@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Addresses Campground/Cottages in Caribean NP. Message-Id: <787949029/tomstr@ARES.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU> Sender: tomstr@ARES.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU Reservations: Local: Maho-Bay Campground Maho-Bay Campground 17a E. 73nd Street P.O. Box 310, Cruz Bay New York, NY 10021 St. John, USVI 00830 Tel. (800)-392-9004 (809)-776-6226 Reservations: Local: Cinnamon Bay Campgrounds at Cruz Bay (National Park Service) (c/o Rockresorts Reservations) NPS (30 Rockefeller Plaza, Suite 5400) Cruz Bay, St. John USVI 00830 (New York, Ny 10112) (809) 776-6330 (Tel. (800)-223-7637) (Info may be out of date) Virgin Island Buero of Tourism P.O. Box 200, Cruz Bay St. Johnm, USVI 00830 (809)-776-6450 Replied: Thu, 22 Dec 94 14:50:25 EST Replied: "Julio Ken Rosenblatt +inbox" Return-Path: Received: from IUS5.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU by NL.CS.CMU.EDU id aa28401; 21 Dec 94 23:05:17 EST From: Julio Ken Rosenblatt Date: Wed, 21 Dec 94 23:04:42 EST To: ref@cs.cmu.edu In-reply-to: Robert_Frederking@DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU's message of Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:16:57 EST <14924.787529817@DHAKA.MT.CS.CMU.EDU> Subject: Re: Camping in the Carribean? Bob, Sorry about the delay, but I finally found the number for Bahia Honda state park in the Florida Keys, it is (305)872-2353. We also camped in the Everglades, at the Flamingo campground at the Southwest corner. They have a big grassy area apart from where you park the cars, and you can set up camp between palm trees, right on the water's edge. Very nice, especially during the migratory seasons as there are all kinds of beautiful birds that pass through there. Don't go on summer though! It is also the only place on earth with both alligators and crocodiles (they live in fresh and brackish water, respectively ), and you can go canoeing amongst them. Sorry, but I don't have a number for that one. Another place is Biscayne Bay, just off of Miami, which is supposed to be very nice, and has a lot of shipwreck diving. I wasn't there, my fear is that it might be a bit too commercialized, since most of the Keys apart from Bahia Honda seemed to be. So when and where are you going? Have a great Christmas, hope to see you soon. Julio